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		<title>By: andrelop</title>
		<link>http://www.andrelop.org/blog/2009/02/22/debian-a-virtualization-friendly-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-61563</link>
		<dc:creator>andrelop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-59968&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Hassan&lt;/a&gt;

There&#039;re many ways to find out if you&#039;re using VirtIO drivers. I also happen to use Lenny as the KVM host and have ran many guests using Lenny as well.

I can say you that when one uses virt-manager (the GUI tool from the libvirt project) from Debian it already uses VirtIO drivers by default for Lenny guests, both for disks and for networking.

You could just use &quot;ps&quot; from inside the host machine and check out if the KVM processes are using parameters as &quot;model=virtio&quot; for VirtIO networking (its on the &quot;-net&quot; options) and &quot;if=virtio&quot; for VirtIO disks (its on the &quot;-drive&quot; options).

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-59968" rel="nofollow">@Hassan</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;re many ways to find out if you&#8217;re using VirtIO drivers. I also happen to use Lenny as the KVM host and have ran many guests using Lenny as well.</p>
<p>I can say you that when one uses virt-manager (the GUI tool from the libvirt project) from Debian it already uses VirtIO drivers by default for Lenny guests, both for disks and for networking.</p>
<p>You could just use &#8220;ps&#8221; from inside the host machine and check out if the KVM processes are using parameters as &#8220;model=virtio&#8221; for VirtIO networking (its on the &#8220;-net&#8221; options) and &#8220;if=virtio&#8221; for VirtIO disks (its on the &#8220;-drive&#8221; options).</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Hassan</title>
		<link>http://www.andrelop.org/blog/2009/02/22/debian-a-virtualization-friendly-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-59968</link>
		<dc:creator>Hassan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for such a nice blog. I am new to KVM. I have installed KVM on &quot;Debian GNU/Linux 5.0&quot; (Lenny).

I have also installed the same &quot;Debian GNU/Linux 5.0&quot; (Lenny) as a guest on KVM Host. How do I know whether this guest who is running on VM is using paravirtualization driver (virtio drivers)

I created VM using virt-install.

Your help is more than welcome. 

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for such a nice blog. I am new to KVM. I have installed KVM on &#8220;Debian GNU/Linux 5.0&#8243; (Lenny).</p>
<p>I have also installed the same &#8220;Debian GNU/Linux 5.0&#8243; (Lenny) as a guest on KVM Host. How do I know whether this guest who is running on VM is using paravirtualization driver (virtio drivers)</p>
<p>I created VM using virt-install.</p>
<p>Your help is more than welcome. </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: André Luís Lopes</title>
		<link>http://www.andrelop.org/blog/2009/02/22/debian-a-virtualization-friendly-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-43094</link>
		<dc:creator>André Luís Lopes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-43031&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Rav&lt;/a&gt; 

Unfortunately, I cannot quantify it. Everyone trying to adopt a technology like KVM should experiment with it and decide for him/herself if it&#039;s worth it for his/her specific environment/workload.

That said, I have also been looking for serious benchmarks showing KVM performance on real world scenarios, but I had no luck to date.

If you can find something interesting and current (benchmarks based on ancient versions aren&#039;t all that useful today), please let me know. I would be glad to read them if anyone could point me to them :-)

Anyway, thanks for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-43031" rel="nofollow">@Rav</a> </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I cannot quantify it. Everyone trying to adopt a technology like KVM should experiment with it and decide for him/herself if it&#8217;s worth it for his/her specific environment/workload.</p>
<p>That said, I have also been looking for serious benchmarks showing KVM performance on real world scenarios, but I had no luck to date.</p>
<p>If you can find something interesting and current (benchmarks based on ancient versions aren&#8217;t all that useful today), please let me know. I would be glad to read them if anyone could point me to them <img src='http://www.andrelop.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Rav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mentioned that &quot;KVM is not as good as Xen when it comes to performance&quot;.. can you quantify that? Has anyone benchmarked or compared the two performance wise (though I know it&#039;s difficult due to differing scenarios)? I&#039;m very interesting in setting up a server running a several VMs under Lenny and I&#039;m trying to decide whether to use Xen or KVM. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mentioned that &#8220;KVM is not as good as Xen when it comes to performance&#8221;.. can you quantify that? Has anyone benchmarked or compared the two performance wise (though I know it&#8217;s difficult due to differing scenarios)? I&#8217;m very interesting in setting up a server running a several VMs under Lenny and I&#8217;m trying to decide whether to use Xen or KVM. <img src='http://www.andrelop.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Debian: uma plataforma amigável a virtualização</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debian: uma plataforma amigável a virtualização</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: André Luís Lopes</title>
		<link>http://www.andrelop.org/blog/2009/02/22/debian-a-virtualization-friendly-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-42379</link>
		<dc:creator>André Luís Lopes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-42355&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Ashish Barot&lt;/a&gt; 

Surely. Growth in the datacenter is always nice. It&#039;s not to say that Debian couldn&#039;t be used in the datacenter already. It&#039;s just that with these kind of features it starts to become a more tasty option for those which weren&#039;t considering it yet.

Personally, I have some Debian servers in a datacenter as well as costumers servers. And some time ago I did some work for a company which had 95% of their servers based on Debian and all of them were hosted in a datacenter :-)

Debian has a lot (I mean, &quot;really&quot; a lot) of users and a huge part of its users are corporate users. It&#039;s just that these people doesn&#039;t like to go around saying which kind of solutions they use for their infrastructure.

Anyway, thanks for your comments and for your visit. I hope you could come back here again and become a regular visitor.

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-42355" rel="nofollow">@Ashish Barot</a> </p>
<p>Surely. Growth in the datacenter is always nice. It&#8217;s not to say that Debian couldn&#8217;t be used in the datacenter already. It&#8217;s just that with these kind of features it starts to become a more tasty option for those which weren&#8217;t considering it yet.</p>
<p>Personally, I have some Debian servers in a datacenter as well as costumers servers. And some time ago I did some work for a company which had 95% of their servers based on Debian and all of them were hosted in a datacenter <img src='http://www.andrelop.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Debian has a lot (I mean, &#8220;really&#8221; a lot) of users and a huge part of its users are corporate users. It&#8217;s just that these people doesn&#8217;t like to go around saying which kind of solutions they use for their infrastructure.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for your comments and for your visit. I hope you could come back here again and become a regular visitor.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish Barot</title>
		<link>http://www.andrelop.org/blog/2009/02/22/debian-a-virtualization-friendly-platform/comment-page-1/#comment-42355</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish Barot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good. Debian will definitely grow in datacenter environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good. Debian will definitely grow in datacenter environment.</p>
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		<title>By: andrelop</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrelop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-42276&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Steve&lt;/a&gt; 

Thanks for sharing your init script. I surely will give it a try :-) And thanks also for pointing out that the unix-socket way is safer than using a TCP-socket.

Now I have plenty of material to start playing around.

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-42276" rel="nofollow">@Steve</a> </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your init script. I surely will give it a try <img src='http://www.andrelop.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  And thanks also for pointing out that the unix-socket way is safer than using a TCP-socket.</p>
<p>Now I have plenty of material to start playing around.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a teaser here&#039;s the init script I use:

http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/tmp/kvm/

It was deliberately written in a way that suited my needs, and could be dropped into /etc/init.d.

I do something similar to you - only I don&#039;t use a TCP-socket I use a unix-socket which is slightly more secure.  To shutdown an instance I rely upon APCI and a system-powerdown event which I can send to the socket via socat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a teaser here&#8217;s the init script I use:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/tmp/kvm/" rel="nofollow">http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/tmp/kvm/</a></p>
<p>It was deliberately written in a way that suited my needs, and could be dropped into /etc/init.d.</p>
<p>I do something similar to you &#8211; only I don&#8217;t use a TCP-socket I use a unix-socket which is slightly more secure.  To shutdown an instance I rely upon APCI and a system-powerdown event which I can send to the socket via socat.</p>
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		<title>By: andrelop</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrelop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-42273&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Steve&lt;/a&gt; 

Yes, some things are easier today than back then when you wrote xen-tools, specially considering that today there are tools such as virt-install and virt-manager.

Regarding connecting to the KVM monitor, I usually launch KVM using the -monitor parameter and bind it to a local TCP port so I can telnet to it and give commands from there. Just don&#039;t do a &quot;quit&quot; from inside the monitor or else your KVM guest will be shut down :-)

I agree that it&#039;s not the most secure way to do it, but as I didn&#039;t knew a safer way to do it, it at least got the job done. But I liked your way of running it from a screen session and attaching to it. I surely will try that way next time I need to launch one of my KVM guests.

Also, I&#039;m looking forward to your KVM-shell. Coming from you, I&#039;m sure this will be neat stuff.

Thanks for commenting and keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-42273" rel="nofollow">@Steve</a> </p>
<p>Yes, some things are easier today than back then when you wrote xen-tools, specially considering that today there are tools such as virt-install and virt-manager.</p>
<p>Regarding connecting to the KVM monitor, I usually launch KVM using the -monitor parameter and bind it to a local TCP port so I can telnet to it and give commands from there. Just don&#8217;t do a &#8220;quit&#8221; from inside the monitor or else your KVM guest will be shut down <img src='http://www.andrelop.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I agree that it&#8217;s not the most secure way to do it, but as I didn&#8217;t knew a safer way to do it, it at least got the job done. But I liked your way of running it from a screen session and attaching to it. I surely will try that way next time I need to launch one of my KVM guests.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;m looking forward to your KVM-shell. Coming from you, I&#8217;m sure this will be neat stuff.</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting and keep up the good work.</p>
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